Jason Kelce is recalling the early stages of his brother Travis Kelce’s relationship with Taylor Swift.

The former Philadelphia Eagles player, 37, joined Charles Barkley and Ernie Johnson for the Friday, Feb. 21 episode of their podcast, The Steam Room, and briefly discussed Travis and Swift’s relationship.

Johnson, 68, asked Jason to explain how he first learned about the budding romance between the 35-year-old Kansas City Chiefs player and the pop superstar. But Jason confessed to the co-hosts that he was “drawing a blank on the first moment.”

Although Jason couldn’t quite recall that initial comment, he told Johnson and Barkley, 62, that he remembered when Travis revealed he was “hanging out” with the 14-time Grammy winner.

“I remember just being like, ‘Are you kidding me? Like you’re going you’re hanging out with Taylor Swift. Like, that’s insane. That’s awesome for you,’ ” Jason said.

“I think this felt different,” Jason said of his brother’s relationship. “What also felt different is just the way he talks about her and talked about her from the moment he was with her.”

“You could tell how much he really, really liked her, right from the get-go,” Jason revealed. “I think that the level early on in that was something that was very eye opening to me when we first had discussions.”

Jason’s Friday interview follows his conversation on the Tuesday, Feb. 18 episode of the Fitz & Whit podcast in which he said Travis is “changing.” He explained he sees his brother’s growth in part because of who he surrounds himself with — which quickly sparked speculation that Swift may be in that group of people.

“He was like Peter Pan, the lost boys. I think that sometimes you get people in your life that maybe get that out of you,” Jason said, adding, “That’s a good thing.”

The Tortured Poets Department singer, 35, and Travis first sparked dating rumors in September 2023 after Swift attended a handful of Kelce’s games.

The couple later confirmed their relationship around that time, after the singer was spotted cheering on the Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. She has since attended several games, including his 2024 and 2025 Super Bowl appearances. Travis also attended more Eras Tour shows during their relationship.

Recently, Travis shared on the Wednesday, Jan. 15 episode of The Stephen A. Smith Show that he and Swift “are happy” and he’s “enjoying all aspects of life.”

“I couldn’t be happier to have that confidence and that comfort off the field and all the support I could ever ask for in the stadium,” Travis said of his relationship with the Red singer.

Travis added, “I think personally, that’s the beauty of being in a very strong relationship is that you get that support to be able to come in and focus on your craft, focus on being the best version of you.”